July, 2003 update - Member number 6 throws a tantrum

 

Those who set out to totally ignore any and all rules are rarely stupid enough to be so accomodating as to put clear evidence of their intentional deceit in writing.

Of course, there's always an exception to every rule.

After ignoring two payment reminders and the finalization of the non-payment complaint, here's the first little gem from this paragon of virtue -

You need to take this off my account, I retracted the bid right after I made the bid. It did not show up on my ebay page after I done [sic] this.

Sure, OK, right away.

You didn't pay for your item because you did some sort of imaginary retraction which didn't appear on your "ebay page", whatever that means.

So, obviously I should just ignore your lack of payment because you'd prefer it, and withdraw that nasty non-payment complaint immediately.

I could already tell that I was in for a rip-roaring good time, so I threw a little gasoline on the fire -

>You need to take this off my account, I retracted
>the bid right after I made the bid. It did not show
>up on my ebay page after I done this.

Did you wonder why your "retraction" didn't show up on the auction and why you appear as the winner?

It didn't "show up" for a very good reason

That very good reason is that you CANNOT retract a Buy-It-Now, as a Buy-It-Now isn't a "bid"

A Buy-It-Now ends the auction because when you click the Buy-It-Now button you obligate yourself to pay the Buy-It-Now price for the item

As section 4 of your eBay user agreement says:

"Bidding and Buying. As a buyer, you are obligated to complete the transaction with the seller:
* if you purchase an item through one of our fixed price formats; or
* if you are the highest bidder at the end of an auction"

As you have probably figured out by now, Buy-It-Now is "one of our [eBay's] fixed price formats"

So, I don't "need to take this off" your account, you need to perform your obligation and pay for your merchandise

Unless, of course, you don't want your merchandise, in which case the terms on my "Me" page, which are incorporated into every auction, cover that, too:

"UNWANTED MERCHANDISE If you don't want your merchandise for any reason, your obligation will be satisfied by payment of two times the lowest S/H cost in the listing"

So, you can either:

1) pay $12 and I will ship you your merchandise, or,

2) pay twice the lowest S/H cost in the listing of $6, which is also $12, satisfying your obligation under the "Unwanted merchandise" provision and I won't send you anything

It's completely up to you

Please advise when and how your $12 payment will be made and whether or not you want your merchndise

See?

All of that stuff on my Me page is good for something, such as this little disaster in the making.

Quoting chapter and verse to the idiots I had in mind when I wrote my terms is great fun, as most of them think that they can just do as they please.

After the shock of realizing that not every seller is a pushover wears off, they usually either conclude that they're stuck with what they agreed to, or they take a stab at a compromise.

Now, I wasn't expecting her to cough up 12 bucks, but I did figure that perhaps she'd offer something to end it.

Which would have been fine with me.

Instead, she decided that going ballistic would be more effective -

Look Bitch, while your tring [sic] to be a smart ass [sic] you might try making some sence [sic] . I am damn sure not going to pay for something I don't want and for your information I have retracted a bid before after having used "buy it now". Have a nice day.

I simply must try to make more sense in the future, although it's probably a fool's errand when dealing with those who make retractions which are but figments of their vivid imaginations.

Since the chances of any payment were looking, to be optimistic, a bit grim, I gave it another try with a little more emphasis on consequences, while trying my utmost to make more sense -

>for your information I have retracted a bid >before after having used "buy it now"

Uh, huh, sure you have, and I'm the Queen of England

Let's see, you have been registered user jerren2003 since 3-25-03, which is the grand whopping total of 6 weeks and 3 days

You have exactly zero bid retractions

How can that be?

You wouldn't be a transparent liar, in addition to being a deadbeat, would you?

Or, is it just that you think eBay's rules don't apply to you?

Regardless of how many delusions you may be suffering from, as I said previously, you CANNOT retract a Buy-It-Now purchase, and at this link:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/index_popup.html?buy=bid-retract.html

you will find eBay explains, amongst other things, that:

1) you are obligated by bidding,
2) retractions are, as a rule, only allowed if an incorrect bid amount was entered
3) any such retraction not followed immediately by a bid for the correct amount is a violation
4) retractions in violation of eBay's policies can result in suspension

and that near the end of their explication of how severely limited the ability to retract is, eBay makes an extremely clear and uniquivocal statement:

"There is no equivalent for bid retraction in Buy-It-Now listings."

Got it yet?

Only an idiot would claim to have done what you claim to have done, because it isn't possible, and never has been

The next crystal-clear sentence from eBay is:

"Once you've confirmed your purchase, you are obligated to pay the seller."

Which means that once you clicked that button on that confirmation page which you saw with your very own eyes when you did the Buy-It-Now, that's it, no retraction, no ifs, ands, or buts, you obligated yourself

Your non-payment behavior has already put you on eBay's suspension radar screen because they track finalized non-payment complaints

If you fail to immediately pay your obligation, I will bring the evidence that you think you can flaunt eBay's retraction rules to their attention in the hope that your ability to inflict yourself on other sellers will be removed sooner rather than later

How's that for making a little more sense?

It didn't work.

However, it did elicit an interesting further outburst.

And, since the host of this site has rules, some of her less genteel verbiage has been slightly modified -

Well you see stupid ass [sic] I was registered under a different name on ebay for two years it hasn't always been jerren2003 have you never heard of that and as I said I retracted several bids after using buy it now, it's really not that hard, your [sic] just to [sic] f*cking stupid to figure it out. and well no ebay rules really don't apply to me. your [sic] just pissed because nobody wants to buy that piece of sh*t so you think you can make me. and as far as being a deadbeat I work 45 hours a week and don't have to make my money setting [sic] on my ass at a computer selling sh*t on ebay. Go ahead and turn me in if you think it will make you feel better I don't give a f*ck, there is always another name to go in under.

The observant reader will already have noted that no previous inductee has even come close to her performance.

Four asterisks in a single paragraph, the previous record being zero.

No one else has ever claimed to be exempt from all eBay rules, or, for that matter, any of them.

No one else has ever been dumb enough to honestly answer an inculpatory rhetorical question.

While the poor girl could use a quick course in the use of the comma, the hyphen, and the paragraph along with introductory spelling, usage and grammar, her real problems lie elsewhere.

As people of her ilk virtually never step in it this badly, this is almost to good to be true, and what should be a slam-dunk complaint to eBay speaks for itself -

Re: jerren2003

The following quotes are all from jerren2003's e-mail to me (complete copy with headers below), which also contains a copy of my e-mail to her explaining eBay's rules and demanding payment for her "retracted" Buy-It-Now item

Beyond being profane and only semi-literate, jerren2003 is perhaps the most brazen deadbeat I have ever run across, and her total disregard for numerous eBay rules is blatant and unique in my experience

1) She is apparently already a serial registrant:
"Well you see stupid ass I was registered under a different name on ebay"

2) She thinks that a Buy-It-Now can be retracted and claims to have done so repeatedly:
"I retracted several bids after using buy it now, it's really not that hard, your just to f*cking stupid to figure it out"

3) She thinks that she can flaunt not only eBay's retraction rule, but all eBay rules:
"ebay rules really don't apply to me"

4) She thinks that she can easily continue her violations by registering again:
"I don't give a f*ck, there is always another name to go in under."

If this outrageous set of circumstances and statements don't merit a very lengthy or permanent suspension, the purpose of the ability to bring bidders like jerren2003 to your attention escapes me

[copy of e-mail snipped]

I thought it was a nice touch to highlight her most flagrant statements, saving whoever reads the initial complaint the trouble of wading through her single, hard to read, giant paragraph to find all of her offenses.

For maximum effect, her vituperation was provided to eBay sans asterisks.

And, I figured that while I was at it, she might also enjoy hearing from her ISP, and, like most ISPs, they have an e-mail address just for news about what their finer customers are up to -

Your user, xxxxxxxx@myexcel.com, sent me an e-mail (complete copy with headers below) which clearly violate this section of your user agreement:

"User agrees not to upload, post or otherwise publish on or over the Service, and not to seek on or over the Service, any software, file, information, communication or other content:
b. which, under the circumstances and in Excel [sic] good faith judgment, is, or is likely to be perceived by an intended recipient or target as, defamatory, misleading, abusive, profane, pornographic, offensive or inappropriate;"

The words abusive, profane, offensive and inappropriate communication over the Service sum up her e-mail quite well

As she seems to have a regard for rules which borders on the nonexistent, I wish you luck in trying to modify her behavior

Thanks in advance for your prompt attention to this matter

[copy of e-mail snipped]

Which may or may not cause her ISP to take any action, even though they claim to have a "zero tolerance" policy when it comes to enforcing their rules.

The only way I'll ever know for sure is if she sends me another one of her lovely notes from a different address, because the ISP won't say anything about the matter in any event.

But, at worst, I'm sure they'll be pleased at the opportunity to have what will surely be a scintillating chat with what must be one of their most pleasant, erudite and honest customers.

Similarly, eBay never says what, if anything, they do or don't do about a complaint.

Which, after two months, was precisely nothing.

Which allowed her to accumulate another negative for not paying someone else.

So I reiterated my complaint to eBay in what may be the vain hope that someone might actually care about enforcing their rules.

My recommendation is not to hold your breath.

Update - The wheels of eBay justice may grind slowly, but extremely fine (when prodded a bit) -

My follow-up complaint to eBay was sent under the more ominous sounding category "A bidder has been previously suspended under another account".

As opposed to the rather more innocuous previous "A bidder has not paid for an item".

The idea being to increase the odds that it would be directed somewhere other than to whomever had (presumably) read the details of the first iteration and allowed this bottomless pot-hole in the road of bidder ethics and honesty to remain registered.

It went like this -

I complained about jerren2003 almost 2 months ago

She is still active, in fact, since then she has managed to accumulate another negative for not paying someone else

What on earth does someone have to do to deserve action on your part?

Are not the statements of this bidder brazen enough?

Did she not violate enough rules?

Allowing people such as jerren2003 to do as they please is something I expect from Yahoo!, not eBay

Thanks in advance for your prompt attention to this matter

[copy of previous complaint including e-mail with headers snipped]

Granted, a bit curt, perhaps even a tad on the strident side.

I could have gone on about how my faith in eBay's resolve to at least maintain some semblance of the idea that they won't tolerate abusive or dishonest bidders had been severely shaken by their previous lack of decisive action.

But, I figured one good crack about Yahoo! was worth 10,000 words, maybe more.

And, sure enough, less than 48 hours later, an eBay search revealed -

Current auctions bid on by jerren2003( -2 ) Not a registered user

Ignoring the two months before she came to the attention of someone who was paying attention, 40-odd hours is certainly the shortest amount of time in which I've caused the eBay axe to fall [as of the date this was written].

In any case, the sound of her electronic head bouncing around in the basket restored a modicum of faith in eBay's determination to toss those of her ilk.

Now, about Yahoo!

Anyone in the audience happen to be or know a Yahoo! attorney or manager?

Can we talk?

 

Another July, 2003 update - Member number 7 whines her way into the Hall

 

The Hall simply wouldn't be complete without representation from the professional victim bidder segment, so I give you one of the best propounders of medical and other excuses, ever.

A few days after the auction ended, I got the first taste of the fine whining to come in this inquiry -

I have a question. Will you make an exception to your no check policy for someone disabled? I have had open heart surgery, have bad knees, and a bad back. Standing in line for a mo kills my back and knees. If I could, I'd like to send a check. If you will allow me, please send your name and address

Hmmm.

Perhaps one medical condition wasn't enough to get the desired result in the past.

Better to preemptively recite a lengthy list of dire problems.

Not a good sign.

Also a favorite trick of bad-check writers.

She got more or less the same answer which everyone gets, regardless of any excuses or claims, true or otherwise -

Sorry, no checks

I accept on-line payments from PayPal or Yahoo PayDirect, or you can get a money order at BidPay.com, or you can send cash

Please read the auction listing/description for all payment and shipping info

At least she actually either noticed the slashed check graphic or read the sentence about checks.

But managed to miss my address about an inch above.

And, yes, I know that Yahoo! PayDirect isn't in the listing, but my moribund PayDirect account still exists, and I was trying to make it as easy as possible for her.

Apparently not satisfied with my answer, a little more whining arrived -

I don't use paypal, ect. so I guess I will have to wait in line and suffer.

Uh, oh, attempted imposition of guilt time.

You'd think that someone who allegedly has trouble getting out and about would make it a high priority to use the highly convenient, not to mention physically painless, services of PayPal or other electronic payment vendor.

In fact, never mind any physical issues, over 70% of all bidders pay electronically with a few clicks.

It remains beyond me why anyone would want to fool around with the wasted time, aggravation and added expense of 1) purchasing a money order, 2) paying a fee for the money order, 3) addressing an envelope, 4) writing an explanation of what you're paying for, 5) expending a stamp, and 6) mailing the envelope.

Perhaps some people actually like standing in lines and other unnecessary aggravation.

After all, you can whine about it.

PayPal better forget about 100% market penetration, they'll never get the whiners.

Anyway, about a month later, her personal check arrived in the mail shortly after the non-payment complaint was finalized.

Nothing like totally ignoring an unambiguous answer to your specific question.

While sorely tempted to blast her, I instead merely gave her the standard copy/paste response -

Thank you for your payment, however, as all of my listings clearly state (and picture), I do not accept checks of any kind

Please submit your payment using any of the methods which I do accept

Your check has been destroyed

Which resulted in [pause for extended drum roll] more whining -

sorry, keep the doll. As I stated, I have arthritis, multi health problems. When I stand in line, my face gets beet red, my knees kill me, and my heart starts fluttering. I have lupus, and I have a weak heart. I can't stand the sun and the heat. I am basically a shut in. Sorry, I can't buy the doll. I don't run into too many people that can' t work with me.

I'm special!

I don't have to follow any rules!

That deserved a slightly more pointed response -

>Sorry, I can't buy the doll. I don't run into
>too many people that [sic] can't work with me.

Tell me, what is it that makes you think you're special and entitled to make up your own rules as you go merrily along your way, disregarding both your obligations and terms to which you have agreed?

My guess is that it stems from whatever mental illness you failed to mention in your long litany of maladies

In any case, you were told point blank after you asked for special treatment that I would not accept a check

You sent a check anyway

Now, you apparently think that you can just ignore your already one month past-due obligation

I guess your definition of someone who can "work with" you is anyone who allows you to do as you wish

I've got news for you

You're not special and you must abide by the same terms of sale everyone else abides by

I've read your Yahoo! and eBay feedback and noted your bad check and excuse-making history, and people like you are precisely the reason why I won't accept a check from anyone under any circumstances

I also see that you've already been suspended by eBay, no doubt for the same type of non-payment behavior

If you fail to immediately pay your obligation, I will do my utmost to ensure that Yahoo! vaporizes your account and you become persona non grata at the earliest possible moment

So, get that husband I saw mentioned in your feedback to go stand in line for you, or use BidPay.com to send a money order, or scrape together $9.00 in cash

Pay your obligation via any acceptable means you wish, but pay it within the next week or suffer the consequences

Which resulted in more, as in much, much, much more whining.

In fact, it would be an injustice to call it anything less than a veritable cornucopia -

Hi, sorry you're so mad about the check. I will try to explain my situation. I have a hubby that works 7 days a week (2 jobs). I don't get out much except to church and once in a while to the super walmart, and then I use the electric wheel chair. I am not making excuses. [!] All my transactions that were rated bad on ebay were because of paypal problems. It isn't the same thing as on yahoo. If you can't take a check, than I guess I can't buy the doll. I will not send 9 dollars in the mail. My husband works too hard for nine dollars to be stolen out of an enevelope. I also do not use credit cards any longer on-line. So, if you can't take a check, I can't do business with you. Sorry, you can't be more understanding. I wouldn't send you a bad check.

Mad?

Why is it that if you require adherence to simple agreed-on rules, state simple facts, and explain simple consequences, these people all manage to mistake it for somehow being mad?

I'll guess that the process revolves around automatically interpreting anything and everything which might interfere with their ability to do exactly as they please as necessarily being done out of unjustified anger, and to be therefore "mad", as in borderline insane, from their warped perspective.

That, and the fact that sarcasm seems to be almost completely lost on these idiots.

Truth be told, the shenanigans of these goofy people are a source of amusement, and anger is about the furthest thing from my mind when I compose e-mail to them.

That, and in this case, the fact that I have no desire to eat the bank charges on her probably bad paper.

The funniest line was that vague little reference to PayPal "problems" amidst all of the whining.

No doubt it was all PayPal's fault.

Anyone care to place a wager on whether PayPal could tell a funny story or two about her account?

So, since all that I had accomplished was to send the level of whining completely off the scale, something which I readily admit was not unintentional, one more attempt to penetrate the fog was needed, this time with a reference to aliens, something which might actually get her attention -

>I will try to explain my situation

Your "situation" is that you are continuing to attempt to violate both my auction terms and the terms of your Yahoo! user agreement

If you were being held hostage by aliens it would have the same effect on your situation as your latest batch of excuses, which is none

In any case, since apparently not a single word of what I wrote has sunk in, in the probably futile hope that repetition might have an effect, here's the bottom line once again:

"If you fail to immediately pay your obligation, I will do my utmost to ensure that Yahoo! vaporizes your account and you become persona non grata at the earliest possible moment

Pay your obligation via any acceptable means you wish, but pay it within the next week or suffer the consequences"

The only difference now is that you only have 5 remaining days to comply

Now, here's a tip for mailing cash, something hundreds of auction winners do every year!

Fold a sheet a paper which you can't see through around a $10 bill!

Believe it or not, billions of pieces of mail containing paper, some of it currency, get delivered every year without being stolen!

I know, I know, it's shocking, but it's actually true!

And, your $1 of change will be sent in the box with your merchandise!

Isn't that amazing?

So, hop to it, the expiration clock on your ability to bid on Yahoo! is ticking

Which actually did appear to get more or less the desired result -

yes, I guess you are smarter than me. I have a B.A. degree by the way. If my money gets ripped off in the mail...where will I stand. You'll still give me a bad feedback and all that b.s. But to satisfy the boss-------you, I will send your money and stick voodoo pins in the doll.

Whoa, what did she say?

Voodoo pins?

That's a first.

Voodoo aside, I'm not quite sure what inspired her to begin with a reference to the obvious.

She's probably acutely, no, make that painfully, aware that practically everyone on the face of the planet is smarter than she, but I didn't bring it up.

Nor do I know what a B.A. has to do with the price of tea in China.

I guess I was supposed to be impressed by some institution of higher learning having made a terrible mistake in granting diplomas.

Either that, or they neglected to tell her that her "B.A." was a certificate of membership in Bellyachers Anonymous.

But, of course, the pointless babbling was just the prelude to more whining.

Not to mention the rationalization that she's making payment because it happens to suit her new purpose.

That of having my doll to stick pins into.

The thought that perhaps her e-mails were really originating from an address at RubberRoom.com was beginning to be more than a remote possibility.

Obviously, in the event of actual payment, sending some pins along with her merchandise would probably be a good idea.

Wouldn't want her to have to stand in line if she's in a hurry to put a special Voodoo curse on me.

I'd never hear the end of it.

And, strangely, if that's possible when dealing with this bidder, I got an unexpected bonus.

Apparently as a result of a Yahoo! mail server glitch, a copy of a totally unrelated e-mail from her to some other seller showed up in my in-box.

Self-explanatory, and unsurprising -

I know for a fact that the teddy bear dress did not get to me. So, I guess the package either was stolen from my porch or hasn't been delivered. I am not crazy, I do know for a fact-100 per cent there was no teddy bear dress delivered.

Xxxxx Xxxxx wrote: You keep asking if your items were sent and you already just thanked me for sending them! You won both the pants and the teddy bear dress from me - that is why we did the combined shipping. I am not sure you understand that both auctions were mine.

Boy, that's a shock, isn't it?

Another seller is having problems with this twit.

And there's that stolen mail thing again.

Nope, she's not crazy, not at all.

A few days later, her cash actually showed up without having been purloined by the USPS.

Incredibly, my completely empty threat to complain to Yahoo! had apparently actually worked, her Voodoo rationization notwithstanding.

I say completely empty because, unfortunately, Yahoo! rarely, if ever, does anything about anyone, no matter how outrageous or egregious their behavior.

One of my fondest hopes is to one day get an e-mail from the Yahoo! legal beagles requesting that I delete the previous sentence because they have finally done something about their rampant legions of outlaw bidders.

Don't hold your breath.

In any case, because she had actually stopped whining long enough to pay, I withdrew the Yahoo! non-payment complaint.

And then this arrives -

ten dollars was sent to you for the doll. Has it come in yet? Why did yahoo send a email re: payment? I told you I would send it. Let me know when you get your money and when you send my daughter her doll

Obviously she still hasn't read the listing or Me page, not that it would do any good, but I couldn't resist the chance to have one last bit of fun -

>Why did yahoo send a [sic] email re: payment?

Ever try actually reading an e-mail?

You should give it a whirl sometime, you'll find it's quite effective at increasing your understanding of whatever it is that whoever sent the e-mail wants you to know

If you had read the e-mail from Yahoo!, you would know that it was about the fact that I have withdrawn the non-payment complaint

Now, considering that you claim to have a B.A. degree, I assumed that you had at least the minimum level of synapses firing to cause you to read the e-mail and then connect two dots and surmise that your payment had been received

Obviously, I seriously underestimated the number of your cranial electrons which are busy leaning on shovels

In any case, just so I don't have to endure yet another idiotic e-mail from you, I'll take this opportunity to tell you to expect the box containing your merchandise, your $1 change, and your destroyed check shortly

Less than an hour later, apparently the urge to whine became overwhelming and resulted in her leaving me some neutral feedback -

Comment: after viewing her comments and see that she's gotten bad and neutral remarks for her rudeness, I would say, I've never, ever, ever been involved with a seller that not only is rude, but has no compassion. May she one day suffer from illnesses that wipe yo

Predictably, she missed the 255 character comment block limit, and continued -

Comment: cont:wipe you out. I have illnesses that are true. She has no feelings for anyone. A very mean person, with no heart.

While she certainly relates well to other deadbeats and prima donnas, a little commentary on the source was in order, which I promptly left in a single comment block -

Blah, blah, blah, more whining from a champion whiner, who wanted to just walk away from her obligation, and only finally got around to paying after 5 weeks under threat of a complaint to Yahoo!, and then only because she has already been tossed by eBay

And, of course, the world could use a handy catalog of her peculiarities, so I left her a little negative feedback, spanning a number of comment blocks, and broken up here for readability -

If you want to hear serious whining about why she can't pay you, this bidder can whine with the best of them, ad nauseum

If you want someone to send a check after specifically telling them you don't accept checks, this bidder will send it

If you want to wait 5 weeks to get paid, this bidder can arrange it

The only reason this incessantly whining ignoramus paid was my threat to complain to Yahoo, and that only worked because she has already been tossed by eBay for non-payment

This bidder is to smooth transactions as oil is to water, as she thinks she's entitled to special treatment and can ignore your terms and/or auction forum rules at will

I highly recommend her if you want to turn a simple transaction into a disaster

So, after I had left my glowing commendation of her talents, of course my fervent hope that she wouldn't grace my inbox again was dashed -

I don't know where you learned compassion but I would suggest you go back to school.

Funny, considering that that bit of shattering repartee is from the very same author who uttered the ungrammatical "May she one day suffer from illnesses that wipe you out" about me in public feedback less than an hour previously.

Let's see if I follow how compassion works when engaged in by the feeble-minded.

I tell you that your personal check isn't acceptable after you ask, but you send it anyway.

I insist that you pay an obligation which Yahoo! rules require you to pay in a manner which is acceptable under my agreed-to terms.

I therefore should be wiped out by illness.

Yup, that's mighty compassionate, she's got a real handle on it and obviously should open a compassion training center.

I hear the best ones are run by rank hypocrites who spend most of their waking hours professing their victimhood to anyone who'll listen.

Speaking of compassion, I wonder what this dolt thinks about eBay.

After all, those mean, cold, heartless scoundrels suspended her account!

Don't they know that she's special?

Don't they realize that her claims to be among the walking, or perhaps sometimes rolling, dead might be true?

Have they no compassion?

Her last e-mail having demonstrated a reversion to what is no doubt her usual state of being merely insipid, and given the lack of much liklihood of further humor, I took a pass on any further e-mail beating of this disabled horse.

However, giving the feedback-reading world a little additional insight into her by responding to her whining in her own feedback was worth doing.

I particularly like her "go and soak your head" riposte -

I wouldn't talk. You're [sic] feedbacks are bad my dear. Every one of the 20 plus negatives say you are one hateful seller. Avoid with passion.

one day I pray you will be seriously ill, and I will look down from heaven, and laugh.

Ah, yes, more pearls of wisdom from an eBay reject. Notice that this clown only decided to burp up a negative AFTER I pointed out her world-class whining here on her feedback. She truly believes that she's special and entitled to do exactly as she pleases.

The reader will also note the irony of first whining about a lack of `compassion' in her feedback to me because I had the temerity to reject her personal check AFTER SHE WAS TOLD IT WASN'T ACCEPTABLE, and then hoping that I `will be seriously ill' so she can laugh, and that I `suffer from illnesses that wipe you out' over on my feedback.

That's compassion as defined by a true mental midget. Oh, and let's do a little math. Of over 4,500 Yahoo! and eBay feedback comments, about 1% are negatives from assorted deadbeats and whiners like this bidder.

It's actually funny that 1) she thinks that deadbeats matter, 2) her percentage of negative feedback is three times as high, and 3) she's been booted from eBay for non-payment

why don't you send the doll, the money, and be done with me and me with you. I am getting to the point of calling this childish play of words. Be done with it and move on picking at someone else if that's the way you play.

Now that she's lost on the merits, she has only a lame shipping diversion, based only on her assumption. 5 week late payment arrived 5/15. Doll shipped 5/16. Her problem is that she jumped the feedback gun, and didn't expect to be shredded. Case closed.

oh, go and soak your head. I have never seen a person so disatisfied with life, people and society. You need to get right with the Lord, girl.He'll put love, patience, understanding and love in your heart instead of bitterness, discontment, sorrow and b

Now, having lost all arguments, her 3rd grade mentality kicks in. Totally consistent with her e-mail to me: `I will send your money and stick voodoo pins in the doll'. Some people, especially world-class whiners like her, just don't know when to quit

getting to ya. Seriously, I am glad the bid is over. I do want you to remember one thing from this: God loves you and so do I. I feel great need of prayer for you.

Uh, huh, sure. Don't hurt yourself with those pins, they're sharp.

doll was rec'd dirty. We cleaned her up, repainted her lips, and colored her hair. We then, put her on a pretty dress. Not a bad looking doll with TLC. Thanks for order. My daughter likes her.

"doll was rec'd dirty"

Apparently having thumped her Bible sufficiently, she just couldn't resist one last gratuitous whine.

Unbelievable.

I decided to let this incredibly dense sleeping dog lie without provoking any further still-born attempts at thought.

Which leaves only the final act of bestowing upon this true dullard of an inductee the additional honor of Medical Whiner of the Year for her unsurpassed ability to endlessly use her prodigious list of alleged medical conditions to whine, wheedle and complain at every step in her futile attempts to escape her obligations.